C2E2 - Day One
So, its C2E2, and DC and Marvel both have a presence there. Since there'll be quite a few announcements there, I'll be making comments here and there on what I feel are the most interesting parts. With that in mind, I'm cutting my intro short since I waste far too much time on them.
Just to get it out of the way...comics on Tuesdays? Ehhh, sure. Its still a week between them though, so what's the difference?
- Steve Rogers: Super-Soldier? I would have preferred co-existing Captain America, but that's just me. I'll be reading this, as Ed Brubaker's a good writer, but...suspect. Marvels Project (what I've read of it) did not turn out to be the "Marvels Two" I was looking for. (Marvels 2 wasn't exactly the Marvels 2 I was looking for. >_<) Love his Captain America though, so perhaps this book will be great.
- Time Masters: Vanishing Point. ...Seriously? Excellent work! People have been asking from day one, "...Uhhh....Booster hops through time now, right? How come Rip can't tell him to get Bruce?" Valid question--nice to see they're answering it. Also they're lacing this book with "event hints". So long as they're more substantial than the chalkboard. At some point that just became a grocery list.
Vertigo Comics Panel:
(Not expecting much. Not a big fan of Vertigo stuff outside of Fables.)
- So Jack of Fables continues to focus on his son? Sweet. (Can't believe 50 is so close though.)
...Wow. That's the whole panel? Well, I DID say I'm not a big Vertigo fan....
- Shadowland was mentioned sometime last year as an event with "street-level" heroes. Its apparently a Daredevil event? I keep meaning to read Daredevil, but a jumping-on point has yet to present itself. From what series writer Andy Diggle described, someone hasn't told him its the "Heroic Age".
Marvel Panel (More Here):
- A Fantastic Four event?? Entitled "3". Quesada was talking multiple "family" events, I'm guessing they'll be along these lines. Fantastic Four is a wonderfully written, beautifully drawn title. I should catch up on it--Solve Everything was moving, emotional stuff full of huge ideas; exactly what the Fantastic Four should be about.
- Avengers Academy Teachers! Roll Call! Tigra, Justice, Hank Pym, Speedball, and Quicksilver. Great line-up; I'd like Firestar around, but oh well.
- For some reason Secret Avengers being finite has generated no small amount of interest.
- Ugh. Comics are killing themselves being so slow to embrace digital stores. Marvel's faster than DC, but they're still talking about LCS. Be SERIOUS, people! Thousands of fans got in through paper comics and won't EVER switch. All you're doing is closing off potential markets.
DC Nation Panel (More Here):
- First Wave's great and all, but you know what...if you don't want to write superheroes...maybe you shouldn't WORK for the Big Two. Its great that you're talented, but maybe you should work for other companies.
- Red Robin's "heavily involved" with Bruce's return...but he's not going with the Time Masters? More importantly, someone should ask if he can get a renaming later on.
- Who asked about Young Justice characters appearing in Teen Titans? Eighty-one brought back everyone except Tim. A possibility of them getting solo titles sounds awesome, but don't waste a question.
- Multiversity before the end of the year? ....Somehow....I don't see it happening. Tell you what, ask them again in like, three months when SDCC comes around. If they don't announce it by then, and its not in the solicits, then that's a 2011 project. Already its going to have half its issues in that year to begin with.
- The Justice League is going to have more females than males? Yeah...who else remembers Post-IC? There was a big deal made once people realized Power Girl and Black Canary were the leaders of DC's respective biggest teams. But Geoff's Justice Society faded from the spotlight (kinda) and the League never actually DID anything. Hopefully they'll do better this time?
- Pay attention to what's happening with Marvel, DC. You're trying to do something original, but...fans don't want that. They like Grayson as Batman, but as soon as Bruce is in present-day DCU...forget it. That's all they're going to want.
- The Mighty Crusaders mini-series will be it for the Red Circle characters. Shield and The Web both got canceled.
- Someone should ask if there's any chance of seeing Wonder Woman: Earth One. Its necessary, but they need someone talented to do it.
- A Black Canary ongoing? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Be glad she's in Birds of Prey--that's the biggest victory you'll get.
- No, you got Milestone because you wanted Static. If you had plans with them something would have been done by now.
- Its got to burn Geoff [Johns] that Teen Titans hasn't been as good/popular as it used to be since he left. But I'm not sure how you'd fix it save a relaunch and a new creative team with a tweaked line-up.
- Villains for Hire isn't permanent? That's...something? The best thing to do would be to cancel it and move on, but that's me.
- If you disagree with Didio on the importance of made-up cities having their own identities, then go read Marvel or something. Because that's spot on. There's no point in having a made-up city if there's no specific "feel" from it.
- Green Arrow: Secret Origins? Shouldn't you get a writer who's working on the character or HAS worked on the character, rather than saying, "I know! Let's get Geoff!!" He'd be great, but he's not working on the guy so if you saw plot points dropped...he wouldn't be following up. Plus, Green Arrow: Year One is all the origin story you need.
- Ugh. The 60's or the 70's or the 80's aren't coming back, guys. Some people AREN'T monthly buyers. And no matter how great the story is, some people don't want it in chunks. They want the whole thing at once. Stop fighting it--embrace it.
- DC's always more aware of its failures than people think. Notice how nobody's talking about this GIANT EVENT they've got coming out...a mere two weeks from now, in War of the Supermen. Despite great stories and art in Superman, Supergirl, and Superman: World of New Krypton, it wasn't the success they wanted it to be, and the result is a month long series that they're trying to get out, and done with, with very little focus on the aftermath as Paul Cornell and JMS take the reins of Superman's new books.
CBR and Newsarama did the real work here, of course, and thanks to them. I included both versions of each panel because often one had detail on a particular subject the other didn't catch.
Anyway, that's Day One. I'll be back with Day Two in a few hours, and I'll most likely get Day 3 up today as well.
Just to get it out of the way...comics on Tuesdays? Ehhh, sure. Its still a week between them though, so what's the difference?
- Steve Rogers: Super-Soldier? I would have preferred co-existing Captain America, but that's just me. I'll be reading this, as Ed Brubaker's a good writer, but...suspect. Marvels Project (what I've read of it) did not turn out to be the "Marvels Two" I was looking for. (Marvels 2 wasn't exactly the Marvels 2 I was looking for. >_<) Love his Captain America though, so perhaps this book will be great.
- Time Masters: Vanishing Point. ...Seriously? Excellent work! People have been asking from day one, "...Uhhh....Booster hops through time now, right? How come Rip can't tell him to get Bruce?" Valid question--nice to see they're answering it. Also they're lacing this book with "event hints". So long as they're more substantial than the chalkboard. At some point that just became a grocery list.
Vertigo Comics Panel:
(Not expecting much. Not a big fan of Vertigo stuff outside of Fables.)
- So Jack of Fables continues to focus on his son? Sweet. (Can't believe 50 is so close though.)
...Wow. That's the whole panel? Well, I DID say I'm not a big Vertigo fan....
- Shadowland was mentioned sometime last year as an event with "street-level" heroes. Its apparently a Daredevil event? I keep meaning to read Daredevil, but a jumping-on point has yet to present itself. From what series writer Andy Diggle described, someone hasn't told him its the "Heroic Age".
Marvel Panel (More Here):
- A Fantastic Four event?? Entitled "3". Quesada was talking multiple "family" events, I'm guessing they'll be along these lines. Fantastic Four is a wonderfully written, beautifully drawn title. I should catch up on it--Solve Everything was moving, emotional stuff full of huge ideas; exactly what the Fantastic Four should be about.
- Avengers Academy Teachers! Roll Call! Tigra, Justice, Hank Pym, Speedball, and Quicksilver. Great line-up; I'd like Firestar around, but oh well.
- For some reason Secret Avengers being finite has generated no small amount of interest.
- Ugh. Comics are killing themselves being so slow to embrace digital stores. Marvel's faster than DC, but they're still talking about LCS. Be SERIOUS, people! Thousands of fans got in through paper comics and won't EVER switch. All you're doing is closing off potential markets.
DC Nation Panel (More Here):
- First Wave's great and all, but you know what...if you don't want to write superheroes...maybe you shouldn't WORK for the Big Two. Its great that you're talented, but maybe you should work for other companies.
- Red Robin's "heavily involved" with Bruce's return...but he's not going with the Time Masters? More importantly, someone should ask if he can get a renaming later on.
- Who asked about Young Justice characters appearing in Teen Titans? Eighty-one brought back everyone except Tim. A possibility of them getting solo titles sounds awesome, but don't waste a question.
- Multiversity before the end of the year? ....Somehow....I don't see it happening. Tell you what, ask them again in like, three months when SDCC comes around. If they don't announce it by then, and its not in the solicits, then that's a 2011 project. Already its going to have half its issues in that year to begin with.
- The Justice League is going to have more females than males? Yeah...who else remembers Post-IC? There was a big deal made once people realized Power Girl and Black Canary were the leaders of DC's respective biggest teams. But Geoff's Justice Society faded from the spotlight (kinda) and the League never actually DID anything. Hopefully they'll do better this time?
- Pay attention to what's happening with Marvel, DC. You're trying to do something original, but...fans don't want that. They like Grayson as Batman, but as soon as Bruce is in present-day DCU...forget it. That's all they're going to want.
- The Mighty Crusaders mini-series will be it for the Red Circle characters. Shield and The Web both got canceled.
- Someone should ask if there's any chance of seeing Wonder Woman: Earth One. Its necessary, but they need someone talented to do it.
- A Black Canary ongoing? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Be glad she's in Birds of Prey--that's the biggest victory you'll get.
- No, you got Milestone because you wanted Static. If you had plans with them something would have been done by now.
- Its got to burn Geoff [Johns] that Teen Titans hasn't been as good/popular as it used to be since he left. But I'm not sure how you'd fix it save a relaunch and a new creative team with a tweaked line-up.
- Villains for Hire isn't permanent? That's...something? The best thing to do would be to cancel it and move on, but that's me.
- If you disagree with Didio on the importance of made-up cities having their own identities, then go read Marvel or something. Because that's spot on. There's no point in having a made-up city if there's no specific "feel" from it.
- Green Arrow: Secret Origins? Shouldn't you get a writer who's working on the character or HAS worked on the character, rather than saying, "I know! Let's get Geoff!!" He'd be great, but he's not working on the guy so if you saw plot points dropped...he wouldn't be following up. Plus, Green Arrow: Year One is all the origin story you need.
- Ugh. The 60's or the 70's or the 80's aren't coming back, guys. Some people AREN'T monthly buyers. And no matter how great the story is, some people don't want it in chunks. They want the whole thing at once. Stop fighting it--embrace it.
- DC's always more aware of its failures than people think. Notice how nobody's talking about this GIANT EVENT they've got coming out...a mere two weeks from now, in War of the Supermen. Despite great stories and art in Superman, Supergirl, and Superman: World of New Krypton, it wasn't the success they wanted it to be, and the result is a month long series that they're trying to get out, and done with, with very little focus on the aftermath as Paul Cornell and JMS take the reins of Superman's new books.
CBR and Newsarama did the real work here, of course, and thanks to them. I included both versions of each panel because often one had detail on a particular subject the other didn't catch.
Anyway, that's Day One. I'll be back with Day Two in a few hours, and I'll most likely get Day 3 up today as well.
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